Loic Le Meur

Inspiring to see what you’re doing for them.

It is definitely not easy to let go of great talent. I will be contacting Alex as shared in the post above. Thanks Loic! This post helps. 

thanks, just normal. 

Are any of them willing to relocate to Cluj?  We have an office there, looking for iOS/Android/.Net(Win8) and QA.

http://www.macadamian.com

Noooo…ok, positive mind, next time will happen…and now look for a new android apps for my people…

“Let them go”, please, this is one most ridiculous expression coming from management. Call a spade a spade dude: workers get fired, they need to pay their bills now.

Overall, I truly hate this tendency within professional world to soften facts by using some kind of politically correct language in order to picture yourself as the good guy.

Anyway this is a nice move and good luck to them.

Gameloft recrute en Roumanie, plutôt orienté graphisme, mais il devrait y avoir possibilité de positionner quelques ressources chez cet employeur très sympa.
http://www2.gameloft.com/corpo_jobs.php?job_country=175
Voxer recrute pas mal également. Plutôt à SF, mais Loic vous pourriez les proposer à Tom.
http://voxer.theresumator.com/

@1c6a2ae0daf46cfc648d9204adc9ee6a:disqus  – Sometimes “letting them go” is not political at all. Generally when you get rid of this many people you are not “firing”. It is usually a shift in business direction. And firing someone generally carries a negative connotation (poor performance or bad culture fit). I don’t think this was the case at all.

Thanks for doing this Loic!

I wish we could afford them, will have to circle back once we get funded.

If ever you are lucky enough to be ‘let go’ instead of ‘fired’ you’ll grasp the concept.

You are right then we must try to find a new project for the team as Loic have.tried…

I am looking for a new project for this incredible team right.now…

If you are willing to relocate to Berlin Wooga is hiring for many mobile engineering positions: http://www.wooga.com/jobs/

Point is the “letting go” term became the basic expression to express that you are kicked out from your job (whether you get fired for your lack our skills or for economical reason).

Using his term is a way to soften communication for companies, it has  nothing to do with employees’ situation.

Having worked with these guys, I can testify there’s great talent in this team, not only as a group, but also individually. Already in touch with some people there. Definitely recommend to get in touch with them before it’s too late.

Good luck. Forwarding to friends who already have teams in Bucharest. Cheers.

Hey Loic, we might be interested.  I’ll speak with Bastien this week.

Hi Loic,

You can point them to http://www.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Company/Jobs?language=en
XWiki is setup in Iasi (with 15 employees) but we already have an employee in Bucarest and could be interested to expand.

Sorry for the hard times
Ludovic

Hi Loic

We might be interested for our online-business platform – http://www.iqteh.com (iOS, Android, BlackBerry). We have offices in Bucharest and Timisoara, please give them our hr@qualteh.ro.

Will be contacting 3-4 members of your team, they have created an awesome product so I am sure it would be great to have them join our team at Zitec.com Sorry to hear the bad news, however I am sure the team will easily find a new job given the dev market in Romania. Good luck with Seesmic, LeWeb and any other projects you might have.

Have them submit their complete CV’s and letter of intention to ovidiu@gotigo.com. We’re looking for talents and hope that their skills are matching our needs.

What’s the average cost for a Bucharest developer?

thanks friends.

please feel free to contact them, and thanks.

“They were fired” has negative connotations towards the exployees. He’s promoting their work and skill, not demoting it; therefore, “let go”.

I wish the whole team the best. But I can’t help but think – you had 4 people on Windows phone, 3 on Android and 3 on iOS. Those are big mobile teams for the product stage.

Folks, if you find it funny having fun about is expression here, you might also consider having fun somewhere else. This is just the term broadly used in SV for this.

thanks Jan

It’s a pity about the Bucharest team. It seems as if the team just started to gel. And these are hard times in Bucharest – even for low-cost development. But for those of you who could use these guys, this is an opportunity and a steal. You can pick them up easy for salaries around $1200/month.

Loic i’m based in Italy and being able to hire most of them. I already have others romanian guys, super high skilled and professional !

“A broadly used term in SV” might be a serious bullshit, especially in Europe.

Despite I totally agree with your other ideas regarding differences between the Valley and European startup/biz/other ecosystems (especially positivity and openness in the U.S. vs. negativity and copycats in EU), I would always be thinking whether the term makes sense and describes the reality or is this just painting a nice picture that is easy to sell?

Btw I cannot see anybody in the list with the Facebook API experience which is what I am interested in.

Sad times, I hope they’ll find something fast. If they are willing to relocate to Oradea, Romania they are welcome at http://www.mobiversal.com/

With their profiles (experienced mobile developers), probably around 3000 euro/month. Or more.
There’s a lot of competition in this space (iPhone & Android dev in Bucharest).
Of course, there are companies offering less (see the previous post with 1200$/month), but those companies don’t expect quality and they usually prefer hiring students.

3000 is too much, you can get high quality for way less money. A top developer with 5 years experience in mobile dev should be around 2200 euro/month. But a team can have also not that experienced developers, you don’t need all of them to have the same exp. So the ranges would be from 1200 to 2200 eur / month

thanks Ray

thanks!

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Loic Le Meur

I think it is remarkably professional, honest and most of all personable of you to post links to your developers.  What better way than for a startup like us to find great people than recommendations from passionate entrepreneurs like you.  Cheers Loic. I will contact them directly.

they all know the Facebook API.

I agree with Loic. In Britain the expression used is usually “made redundant”. That means they were not “fired” through any fault of their own, it just means the company had to change direction or down size. Another term is “laid off”.

It’ doesn’t have anything to do with being funny or play the smart ass. Let me put this (real) quick.

Vocabulary is alway the expression of power, especially in the professional world. Expression spread from the top to the bottom. From the SV to small companies deep down in the country if you prefer.

Soften the vocabulary allow power to let pass a reality way harder than the way it’s described.

Remember how back then the word “flexibility” replace the term
   
“job insecurity”. Now it’s a common belief that flexibility is an asset. However it’s far from being the case. (except for ppl who love their job and get the money i.d. a minority).

I am not surprised that it’s a common term in California, it’s becoming the same thing in UK too. Then it will be generic everywhere. I wouldn’t be so pride to be considered as a “progressist” from this point of view.

Anyway as I mentioned in my first comment and this is what matters most so far: “this is a nice move and good luck to them”.

This post is a really classy way to handle this; I hope that more businesses who go through a very rough time yet believe in their (former) employees consider something like this post.

That you will have to ask them yourself of you don’t mind. Thanks

I was in Bucharest a couple of years ago. I loved the scene over there. A lot of talent…

thanks Zachary

adrien, please get a life; and if you can in the US, where you´ll learn to be simple, focused on what matters, and POSITIVE. your incredible and rude digression here subtracts and is way out of line.

You talk about net salaries, HR girl was talking about gross. Also the question is for Bucharest.