» I’m a little more American today.

I’m a little more American today.

Today it’s my first day as official US immigrant, I entered customs through the new immigrant line as a future Green Card holder. I have been living in the US for 4.5 years under an investor visa and the main reason why we asked for a Green Card was getting the kids into College and allowing my 16 years old to keep his ranking as one of the top junior fencers in the US (he needs a Green Card # to keep fencing the nationals).

It’s not been easy, it’s been about 1.5 years that we have been waiting for that interview, prepared a full application and asking many friends their written recommendations to help my case (thanks, it helped). Oh and I think we paid $15k in immigration lawyering fees, too. Anyway, today we finally entered as immigrants and within two months we should receive the infamous Green Card.

It doesn’t change that much frankly, except that in 5 years we can ask for a full US passport if we want to, like many friends of ours elected to, and become full americans. The good news is there is a number of Countries where dual citizenship is allowed so I would be able to keep my French and my American passports simultaneously. I wonder if I will ask a US passport, I am not sure. After 10 years in the US maybe I will feel like becoming a full American citizen, I guess voting is the main difference. Tax wise it doesn’t change that much as I have already been a US tax payer for nearly 5 years. Oh, yes, there is this worldwide taxation regardless of where you live worldwide and for life, but frankly if we have been in the US for 10 years+, I doubt we will come back anytime soon and who cares about tax as long as you live well, contributing is okay, I’m also getting a lot from living here. In terms of tax, California is pretty similar to France.

Living in Silicon Valley has been extraordinary for my wife Geraldine and myself, but even more we feel for our Children. Not that we were not happy in Paris, but I have to admit that I have never seen that much concentration of talent, smart people and most importantly ambitious people anywhere. It’s the heart of technology worldwide and it’s not going to change anytime soon. We love it. We have so many friends here now.

As I have been a few weeks in Paris, a few details and “cliches” stroke my mind and reminded me how different the US is to France, much more different than I expected when I moved 5 years ago:
-Crossing the street.
In Paris you should be scared to cross the street as cars accelerate if they see you’re going to cross. In San Francisco cars watch you from the sideways and stop even before you started crossing the street
-Asking for the bill.
In Paris you wait forever for the bill and it’s impolite to bring it to you if you haven’t asked for it. In San Francisco they bring you the bill even before you finish your desert, it’s considered good service so you don’t have to wait. After 5 years I’m always surprised when they do this to me.
-People generally feel more relaxed and happy in San Francisco compared to constant stress in Paris. Each time I go back to Paris I feel everybody is complaining around me and feel unhappy about anything. It’s very parisian to just complain about anything. 
-In San Francisco good service in a restaurant is when the waiter is very kind and helpful. In Paris if you get good service (read: they’re really nice with you) it’s a tourist place. If it’s a parisian place waiters are arrogant, generally make you wait and feel like you should be thankful to even be in that restaurant, that’s how it (generally) is… Get a table at the Costes and tell me how you feel when you arrive.

Of course I’m focusing on the obvious here, and I think France and the French have very unique qualities that I miss. I like coming back to Paris, but I have to admit that I like coming back more and more as a “foreigner” or at least that’s how it feels to me. I have just spent for the first time in my life a full week in Paris as a tourist with my family, showing the Louvre and Versailles to my kids, we all loved it. We enjoyed incredible food and great places we don’t have in the US and of course stayed many times with friends we don’t get to see that much anymore.

I have lived in Paris for 15 years and now 5 years in San Francisco, both cities and cultures are for sure very different. For me it comes down to living in the center of the World of my passion: technology. Paris is one of the centers of Fashion and food, for example, and has great startups, but it can’t compete with San Fran if you look at the startup scene, it probably doesn’t have to.

I enjoy very much organizing LeWeb in France every year and that’s here to stay, it’s been 8 years already, but I probably feel more home in San Francisco now than in Paris. I love the energy, the ambition, the “no-one complains ever” culture. Everything is about entrepreneurship and technology. It’s also very often about improving the World we live in, look at Apple, Facebook or Google as well as so many startups I love such as Flipboard, Uber, Path, Evernote… to name a few. They are changing the World. It feels good to live in their neighborhood.

Who knows, it might change, but for now my plan is to settle here more and more while keeping organizing LeWeb in Paris every year in december, which keeps me somehow in the middle of the Atlantic and contributing remotely to the european startup scene, at least once a year. Don’t get me wrong, I still love Paris, the Parisians and the French, I’m just focusing on technology!



  • http://www.thelettertwo.com/ Ken Yeung

    Congratulations, Loic!

  • http://gonzague.me Gonzague Dambricourt

    Merci du retour très intéressant :-)  

  • http://twitter.com/leweb leweb

    avec plaisir!

  • http://twitter.com/leweb leweb

    thanks Ken!

  • Guest

    très bien dit, Loïc ! on veut bien d’écouter plus de votre vie américaine !

  • http://twitter.com/thebrandbuilder Olivier Blanchard

    Congrats et bravo. J’habite aux US depuis 1994 mais je vis a cheval entre la France et les US depuis 1988. You really can get the best of both worlds that way. :)

  • Marco Stazi

    Hi Loic, I’m an Italian currently living in Australia and much of what you say apply to me (except the “Silicon Valley Hearth of technology world” part). Sadly, complaining about everything has become the favourite activity of Italians too, so I perfectly understand what you mean.

  • http://roeblingstrauss.com/ Bill Sanders

    Congratulations Loic! Great to hear that Arthur is doing so well in fencing. Glad to hear you are on the green card track – you and Geraldine are a great asset here. 

  • http://www.9slides.com Ruchit Garg

    Loic, your story is just to similar to mine with few differences I moved from India and in Seattle. But we should meet whenever I am in bay area. After all I am in tech too.

  • Anonymous

    Félicitations. It can’t have been easy and must be a mix of emotions. At least they won’t stop you (hopefully) for no reason when entering U.S. customs as they seem to so thoughtfully do far too often to non-U.S. citizens…

  • http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/ John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)

    If you eventually decide to become an American citizen, you’ll probably know more about American history than most Americans. :)

  • http://www.loiclemeur.com/ Loic Le Meur

    merci Michelle

  • Yael R

    Bravo Loic c’est vraiment top, c’est vraiment ce que l’on ressens aussi entre Paris/SF et même Paris/TelAviv.

  • K2yb

    In Paris, like everywhere else, people do not complain all the time if you take care of who you are surrounded by! But yeah I understand you, the grass seems always greener on the other side of the fence!

  • http://twitter.com/michaeltartar Michaël Tartar

    Très intéressant. Merci Loic pour ce retour d’expérience qui donne à réfléchir

  • Eric Maillard

    The “no-one complains ever” culture fait en tout cas très envie en tout cas :)

  • Nielsenaa

    Welcome to a true multicultural life position. Well its not exactly completely that as you are not born truely bicultural or are you ? (being from your grand mother doesnt count ;) )   .. but i guess i can finally read in your post you are starting tasting it, just by having to ponder which pass you’ll fave or waive depending on your mood or the country’s customs ones ;)

    But what will be the upper most interressant thing is to ask, 30years from here,  your kid’s kids how they feel and what they gonna do about their world . You’ll see it will be very different from your experience and point of view today as marrying a new nationality is not the same at all as being born dual nat.

    One thing you’re right about tho is French constant bitchin while never caring about responsabilities when they ought to. Not a suprise itll ever be a place of evolution anymore

  • Nielsenaa

    Shortly put, try now being bicultural , and live  in a culturaly different third country 

  • http://twitter.com/DelphRB DelphineRemy-Boutang

    Nice post. Welcome back to your country Loic & Family! I relate to this very much. After 14 years of living in London, In addition to the “no-complain way of being”. what strikes me the most in the Anglosaxon culture is that you can do anything business wise, there is no limit to success irrelevant of your background / education. You are what you are, as a person. And that is very much liberating !

  • Sylvain Briant

    Compare your french nationality to parisian. Typically parisian to think that France is Paris. I am french and i lived in many places in France and other countries and i never felt happy and smile in Paris but if you live in alps, in riviera or in britain, you will immediatly feel happy and less stress. Paris is not France, same for US, San Fransisco is not USA: try to compare to Houston or Chicago to see

  • Lionel S

    Congrats! And thanks for this note Loïc.. I’ve just get my investor visa to US.
    Your feedback is very interesting..

    Merci.. And good luck..

  • http://contact.itibz.com TibZ

    THIS. is exactly why I loved my few months in San Francisco so much!
    THIS. is why I’ll come back as soon as I can. This and the interesting people and amazing friends I met there!

  • Pamela

    Félicitations Loïc! Just happened upon your blog…I’m an American living in the French Alps. It isn’t Paris but boy are the “Savoyards” like the Parisians! Complaining complaining complaining! We’ve always talked about going to the US one day (my husband is French), it may be sooner rather than later!

  • Mathieu Méa

    I’ve been leaving in north america for a little more than 4 years and I also feel that I won’t go back to permanently live in France anytime soon.
    I like spending holidays in France (not in Paris ;) ) but I don’t see myself living there.
    I’m currently waiting for my “Canadian Green Card” but I would be interested in moving to San Francisco because I really felt what you’re describing about this city when I was there last May.
    Anyway, congrats on you Green Card and thanks for organizing LeWeb in France because I think it really helps France to move forward.

  • http://twitter.com/gregfromparis gregory pouy

    I’m really glad that you went through this process (seems to be tuff).
    For the few times I came to SF, I loved it for the facts that you are explaining (smart people who work hard but who are also so happy and healthy).
    For any reasons, living in Paris means running everytime.
    Happiness is not that connected to the place you live in, but it helps :)
    Really happy for you, Geraldine and your childrens !

  • http://kexino.com Gee Ranasinha

    As has been already pointed-out, there’s more to France than Paris. In my experience attitudes and behaviors in many large/capital cities have little similarities with the rest of the country – whether that’s France, the US, or pretty much anywhere else. 

    You can get just as much rudeness from a waitress in NYC as you can in Rue du Faubourg Saint-Honoré. I speak from experience, having once been chased down the street by a waiter in NYC when he thought (wrongly, btw) that I hadn’t left a tip.I moved to Strasbourg from London ten years ago and love it. Many of the differences that you point-out I don’t see in Strasbourg (except for bringing the check – that always freaks-out my US friends whenever they come over!). However, I’d agree with you that the concept of “customer service” usually falls considerably short when compared to most US cities.

  • http://twitter.com/sandrineszabo sandrineszabo

    Congrats Loic! To a smaller extent moving to switzerland provided me the exact same feeling. People dare, try, don’t complain, work hard and are really really nice… It took a lot of energy to get there but I am sure your kids will be grateful for offering them such an opportunity for their future. welldone ;-) et tout de bon à vous tous!

  • Michel

    Happy new American Year!

  • http://twitter.com/moon paul mooney

    I have an EU Passport and an American one as well, each was a birthright  

  • http://www.loiclemeur.com/ Loic Le Meur

    you have a point Sylvain

  • http://www.loiclemeur.com/ Loic Le Meur

    the only problem in Switzerland Sandrine is that people are really risk averse in general and don’t look at startups in a good eye, not much startup scene there, right?

  • Guest

    I plan to go to Houston or Chicago this summer. What would be best?

  • Guest

    I plan to go to Houston or Chicago this summer. What would be best?

  • http://bynthere.blogspot.com byn

    Congratulations on getting to where you want to be for your family. I always find it interesting to see what folks from ‘outside’ find that is different from their expectations when they start to live ‘inside’ the US. I’ve had so many friends whose entire impression of the US was based on whatever television series was on in their part of the world, be it Dallas or Baywatch or an American soap opera.  Were you expecting something much different than what you’ve experienced?  
    Glad to hear that San Francisco has been so welcoming.  I worked there for a few months and can say it is a wonderful and unique American city. 

  • http://www.loiclemeur.com/ Loic Le Meur

    I never watch TV so I can’t comment on this!

  • http://bynthere.blogspot.com byn

    Ha! Maybe a movie then? ;) I suppose that’s good. I was thinking you’d have a preconceived notion from somewhere but thinking about it I can’t say I have much of one about France or the French, now than I think of it, even after studying the language and the country for a few years in school

    Congratulations anyway! :D

  • http://jy.typepad.com/ Anonymous

    “i never watch TV” you should be ashamed ;-P 

  • http://www.loiclemeur.com/ Loic Le Meur

    hehehe!

  • http://twitter.com/ricardojrsousa ricardojrsousa

    Congratulations Loic!

  • http://www.loiclemeur.com/ Loic Le Meur

    thanks!